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		<title>By: Porter/Teisberg JAMA Article: Out-of-the-box or out-of touch? - e-CareManagement - Chronic Disease Management • Technology • Strategy • Issues and Trends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porter/Teisberg JAMA Article: Out-of-the-box or out-of touch? - e-CareManagement - Chronic Disease Management • Technology • Strategy • Issues and Trends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alan Maynard: Porter’s lack of specificity about the outcome measures needed to improve the performance of the U.S. health care systems, and his glib reliance on “competition” to institute change, flies in the face of international evidence: Nowhere has any public or private institution managed to curb the excesses of powerful providers more interested in their wallets than demonstrably improving patients’ health. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alan Maynard: Porter’s lack of specificity about the outcome measures needed to improve the performance of the U.S. health care systems, and his glib reliance on “competition” to institute change, flies in the face of international evidence: Nowhere has any public or private institution managed to curb the excesses of powerful providers more interested in their wallets than demonstrably improving patients’ health. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don McCanne, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don McCanne, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regular readers of the [Physicians for a National Health Program] Quote of the Day will know that I am not a fan of Porter and Teisberg’s concepts. An excerpt from an earlier comment of mine: “Imagine a system in which care is delivered based on teams, without geographical limitations, organized around medical conditions, competing with other teams organized around the same conditions. Imagine your community hospital and its specialists providing care for a very limited list of medical conditions selected on the basis of providing better outcomes and lower prices. Your community hospital may very well lack a team that is dedicated to your particular problem, requiring you to travel to the next county, or maybe the next state, for care. Then allegedly to create transparency in pricing, you receive a single bill that totally obscures any understanding as to where your payment goes. You really have to read the book to understand the extent to which this line of reasoning is carried.” 

“The American health care systems perform impressively, producing what they are designed to deliver: cost inflation, inefficiency, and inequity.” This first line in Alan Maynard’s comment leads us to our bottom line. The United States needs a new design that would address cost inflation, inefficiency, and inequity. The first step would be to establish an equitable, efficient national health insurance program that could begin to tackle the rapidly rising costs of health care. That won’t be easy, but it’s impossible under the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular readers of the [Physicians for a National Health Program] Quote of the Day will know that I am not a fan of Porter and Teisberg’s concepts. An excerpt from an earlier comment of mine: “Imagine a system in which care is delivered based on teams, without geographical limitations, organized around medical conditions, competing with other teams organized around the same conditions. Imagine your community hospital and its specialists providing care for a very limited list of medical conditions selected on the basis of providing better outcomes and lower prices. Your community hospital may very well lack a team that is dedicated to your particular problem, requiring you to travel to the next county, or maybe the next state, for care. Then allegedly to create transparency in pricing, you receive a single bill that totally obscures any understanding as to where your payment goes. You really have to read the book to understand the extent to which this line of reasoning is carried.” </p>
<p>“The American health care systems perform impressively, producing what they are designed to deliver: cost inflation, inefficiency, and inequity.” This first line in Alan Maynard’s comment leads us to our bottom line. The United States needs a new design that would address cost inflation, inefficiency, and inequity. The first step would be to establish an equitable, efficient national health insurance program that could begin to tackle the rapidly rising costs of health care. That won’t be easy, but it’s impossible under the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveBeller</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2006/10/12/health-reform-reinventing-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveBeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil Gardner wrote: &quot;Could you maybe elaborate on how you see successful evidenced-based diagnosis and treatment ever really being measured and incorporated to a meaningful level in a healthcare system?&quot;

This may help answer the question: On our WellnessWiki, we addressed the issue of &lt;a href=&quot;http://wellness.wikispaces.com/Tactic+-+Improve+Care+Quality+with+Evidence-Based+Practice+Guidelines&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; improving care quality with evidence-based practice guidelines &lt;/a&gt;, along with &lt;a href=&quot;http://wellness.wikispaces.com/Table+of+Contents&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; 18 other tactics for dealing with our healthcare crisis.&lt;/a&gt; I welcome any feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil Gardner wrote: &#8220;Could you maybe elaborate on how you see successful evidenced-based diagnosis and treatment ever really being measured and incorporated to a meaningful level in a healthcare system?&#8221;</p>
<p>This may help answer the question: On our WellnessWiki, we addressed the issue of <a href="http://wellness.wikispaces.com/Tactic+-+Improve+Care+Quality+with+Evidence-Based+Practice+Guidelines" rel="nofollow"> improving care quality with evidence-based practice guidelines </a>, along with <a href="http://wellness.wikispaces.com/Table+of+Contents" rel="nofollow"> 18 other tactics for dealing with our healthcare crisis.</a> I welcome any feedback!</p>
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		<title>By: LFBaltrucki</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2006/10/12/health-reform-reinventing-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>LFBaltrucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to follow up on the comment that Neil Gardner has made.

(I am a pathologist, who like many of my peers in the US, is actively involved in cancer diagnosis on a daily basis).

Someone very close to me was just recently diagnosed with bladder cancer, which after my review of all the available data, appears to have been detected somewhere in the mid-stage of the disease&#039;s natural history. )  The clinical implications of late vs. early detection of this disease can be quite significant, and in older adults it frequently turns out to be their life limiting disease, (depending on the presence or absence of other significant diseases).

This individual &quot;felt fine&quot; throughout the early stages of her disease. In fact, she had been quite pleased with the care that her physician (board-certified in internal medicine) had been giving to her, (for other comparatively minor conditions).

There may indeed be a place for patient reports about &quot;feeling better&quot; in the overall scheme of measuring &quot;value&quot; and oucomes, but we must be cautious to define precisely the circumstances where this type of reporting might be used such that it provides reliable and relevant information.

Perhaps younger patients as a group will provide us with more useful information, but older patients still tend to &quot;trust their doctors&#039; judgment&quot; and they also tend to evaluate their doctor&#039;s performance based on subjective criteria that are related more to the physician&#039;s interpersonal skills, rather than his or her actual clinical expertise.

If the patient that I am telling you about had a relatively inexpensive urinalysis test at any point over the four year period that her internist had been taking care of her, there is a very high probability that small numbers of red blood cells would have been detected in her urine and this would have led to detection of her bladder cancer at an earlier stage. 

Every 4th year medical student knows that bladder cancer is in the differential diagnosis of &quot;painless microscopic hematuria&quot;. I also have no doubt that there are practice guidlines that have been issued by various professional organizations concerning the performance of a screening urinalysis as part of a complete annual medical examination.

The reality is that many patients don&#039;t know anything about these guidelines.

Another paniful reality is, that (unlike the situation with the Joint Commission and Hospitals) 
there does not appear to be any mechanism in the US to hold clinical practitioners accountable  for following professional guidelines or performance standards in the office practice setting, (other than litigation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to follow up on the comment that Neil Gardner has made.</p>
<p>(I am a pathologist, who like many of my peers in the US, is actively involved in cancer diagnosis on a daily basis).</p>
<p>Someone very close to me was just recently diagnosed with bladder cancer, which after my review of all the available data, appears to have been detected somewhere in the mid-stage of the disease&#8217;s natural history. )  The clinical implications of late vs. early detection of this disease can be quite significant, and in older adults it frequently turns out to be their life limiting disease, (depending on the presence or absence of other significant diseases).</p>
<p>This individual &#8220;felt fine&#8221; throughout the early stages of her disease. In fact, she had been quite pleased with the care that her physician (board-certified in internal medicine) had been giving to her, (for other comparatively minor conditions).</p>
<p>There may indeed be a place for patient reports about &#8220;feeling better&#8221; in the overall scheme of measuring &#8220;value&#8221; and oucomes, but we must be cautious to define precisely the circumstances where this type of reporting might be used such that it provides reliable and relevant information.</p>
<p>Perhaps younger patients as a group will provide us with more useful information, but older patients still tend to &#8220;trust their doctors&#8217; judgment&#8221; and they also tend to evaluate their doctor&#8217;s performance based on subjective criteria that are related more to the physician&#8217;s interpersonal skills, rather than his or her actual clinical expertise.</p>
<p>If the patient that I am telling you about had a relatively inexpensive urinalysis test at any point over the four year period that her internist had been taking care of her, there is a very high probability that small numbers of red blood cells would have been detected in her urine and this would have led to detection of her bladder cancer at an earlier stage. </p>
<p>Every 4th year medical student knows that bladder cancer is in the differential diagnosis of &#8220;painless microscopic hematuria&#8221;. I also have no doubt that there are practice guidlines that have been issued by various professional organizations concerning the performance of a screening urinalysis as part of a complete annual medical examination.</p>
<p>The reality is that many patients don&#8217;t know anything about these guidelines.</p>
<p>Another paniful reality is, that (unlike the situation with the Joint Commission and Hospitals)<br />
there does not appear to be any mechanism in the US to hold clinical practitioners accountable  for following professional guidelines or performance standards in the office practice setting, (other than litigation).</p>
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		<title>By: INSTAHEALTH Market &#187; Archive &#187; Reinventing The Wheel</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2006/10/12/health-reform-reinventing-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>INSTAHEALTH Market &#187; Archive &#187; Reinventing The Wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is sharp criticism of Michael Porter&#8217;s voluminous foray into the health sphere: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is sharp criticism of Michael Porter&#8217;s voluminous foray into the health sphere: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Gardner</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2006/10/12/health-reform-reinventing-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He rightly indicates that the industry needs a measure of value added and that instead of focusing on cost and activity, it is necessary to measure patient-reported outcomes — i.e., measures of whether patients feel better.&lt;/i&gt;

Prof Maynard, I like your thinking and agree with much of your criticism of the current healthcare system.  However, concerning the above quote from your writings, I have got to wonder if patient reports of feeling better are any more reliable than hearsay in regard to real evidenced-based data about actually being better.  Especially in a third party payment arrangement, getting a message every other day is bound to make one feel better, but is that evidence of successful treatment of a real disease condition?  

Could you maybe elaborate on how you see successful evidenced-based diagnosis and treatment ever really being measured and incorporated to a meaningful level in a healthcare system??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He rightly indicates that the industry needs a measure of value added and that instead of focusing on cost and activity, it is necessary to measure patient-reported outcomes — i.e., measures of whether patients feel better.</i></p>
<p>Prof Maynard, I like your thinking and agree with much of your criticism of the current healthcare system.  However, concerning the above quote from your writings, I have got to wonder if patient reports of feeling better are any more reliable than hearsay in regard to real evidenced-based data about actually being better.  Especially in a third party payment arrangement, getting a message every other day is bound to make one feel better, but is that evidence of successful treatment of a real disease condition?  </p>
<p>Could you maybe elaborate on how you see successful evidenced-based diagnosis and treatment ever really being measured and incorporated to a meaningful level in a healthcare system??</p>
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