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	<title>Comments on: Health IT Initiatives: Not Magical, Just Practical</title>
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		<title>By: acavale</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23316</link>
		<dc:creator>acavale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, let me celebrate this landmark moment in HealthAffairs Blog history. This is the first time (to my knowledge) where the blog originator has responded to the readers&#039; comments. So thank you, Mr. Leavitt. Even your namesake does not do this on his own blog!

Coming back to reality, unfortunately, mere sympathy does not incentivise me to continue providing the type of care I provide. It is obvious to me that in order for any type of P4P program to succeed, the process of data collection must be simplified and the collection of data must not be the responsibility of the physician - this takes away the physician&#039;s focus from providing high quality care to documenting care and collecting data (as has happened with current PQRI process). As far as private insurers voluntarily offering incentives for EHR use, I can say for sure that its untrue in our area - SE PA. I know that for a fact because of my inquiries over the past 3 years with all major carriers in our area. They do not even like to mention this in any discussion. But I will check out the website further. It would serve everybody if Mr. Leavitt could provide evidence as to how CMS selected the &quot;small practices&quot; for its EMR study; because I am on its list-serve, and I was not offered such an option. It appears to me that only those connected to large university-based/affiliated groups got the opportunity. If this was the case, I am afraid, it is going to be a short-lived effort. I hope I am wrong, for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, let me celebrate this landmark moment in HealthAffairs Blog history. This is the first time (to my knowledge) where the blog originator has responded to the readers&#8217; comments. So thank you, Mr. Leavitt. Even your namesake does not do this on his own blog!</p>
<p>Coming back to reality, unfortunately, mere sympathy does not incentivise me to continue providing the type of care I provide. It is obvious to me that in order for any type of P4P program to succeed, the process of data collection must be simplified and the collection of data must not be the responsibility of the physician &#8211; this takes away the physician&#8217;s focus from providing high quality care to documenting care and collecting data (as has happened with current PQRI process). As far as private insurers voluntarily offering incentives for EHR use, I can say for sure that its untrue in our area &#8211; SE PA. I know that for a fact because of my inquiries over the past 3 years with all major carriers in our area. They do not even like to mention this in any discussion. But I will check out the website further. It would serve everybody if Mr. Leavitt could provide evidence as to how CMS selected the &#8220;small practices&#8221; for its EMR study; because I am on its list-serve, and I was not offered such an option. It appears to me that only those connected to large university-based/affiliated groups got the opportunity. If this was the case, I am afraid, it is going to be a short-lived effort. I hope I am wrong, for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Leavitt</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23315</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Leavitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to these comments:
I sympathize with the challenges &quot;acavale&quot; has experienced as an early adopter, and the fact that he hasn&#039;t himself seen an offer of bonuses from private or public insurers (although he did get a liability premium discount) for having an EHR.  But the CMS experiment for large group practices he mentions is not their latest program -- if fact, Medicare&#039;s new program is focused ONLY on small practices, 2400 of them.   From private payers, we have new survey data showing that over 25% of plans now offer EHR incentives (up from 12% a year ago) in their pay-for-performace programs.  The problem is that busy doctors don&#039;t have time to hunt down these incentive programs.  We&#039;re going to try to improve that situation by adding an easy-to-use incentive finder on our physician-focused website, www.ehrdecisions.com 

I agree with &quot;suehouck&quot; who points out the gap between potential and reality in realizing EHR benefits.  EHR software can and should get better, faster, and easier to use with time, and we also need more skilled implementation help.  Also, we need all of our doctors and nurses to be using this technology during their training so the switchover won&#039;t be so traumatic later.  Some  implementations still fail (which is certainly the case in her example of a 20% productivity drop a year after go-live), requiring re-examination of the whole picture: clinician leadership, adequate staff buy-in, workflow re-engineering, template and pick list set-up, etc.

&quot;johnrgraham&quot; went right to the &#039;elephant in the room&#039; question:  Why does the doctor not face the right incentives?  I believe the answer is because our payment system rewards volume;  not quality, safety, or cost-effectiveness.  Bonuses for Health IT aren&#039;t bribes, they are just small examples of correct incentives within a larger dysfunctional system.  

I appreciate the dialog!  Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to these comments:<br />
I sympathize with the challenges &#8220;acavale&#8221; has experienced as an early adopter, and the fact that he hasn&#8217;t himself seen an offer of bonuses from private or public insurers (although he did get a liability premium discount) for having an EHR.  But the CMS experiment for large group practices he mentions is not their latest program &#8212; if fact, Medicare&#8217;s new program is focused ONLY on small practices, 2400 of them.   From private payers, we have new survey data showing that over 25% of plans now offer EHR incentives (up from 12% a year ago) in their pay-for-performace programs.  The problem is that busy doctors don&#8217;t have time to hunt down these incentive programs.  We&#8217;re going to try to improve that situation by adding an easy-to-use incentive finder on our physician-focused website, <a href="http://www.ehrdecisions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ehrdecisions.com</a> </p>
<p>I agree with &#8220;suehouck&#8221; who points out the gap between potential and reality in realizing EHR benefits.  EHR software can and should get better, faster, and easier to use with time, and we also need more skilled implementation help.  Also, we need all of our doctors and nurses to be using this technology during their training so the switchover won&#8217;t be so traumatic later.  Some  implementations still fail (which is certainly the case in her example of a 20% productivity drop a year after go-live), requiring re-examination of the whole picture: clinician leadership, adequate staff buy-in, workflow re-engineering, template and pick list set-up, etc.</p>
<p>&#8220;johnrgraham&#8221; went right to the &#8216;elephant in the room&#8217; question:  Why does the doctor not face the right incentives?  I believe the answer is because our payment system rewards volume;  not quality, safety, or cost-effectiveness.  Bonuses for Health IT aren&#8217;t bribes, they are just small examples of correct incentives within a larger dysfunctional system.  </p>
<p>I appreciate the dialog!  Mark</p>
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		<title>By: johnrgraham</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23246</link>
		<dc:creator>johnrgraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the doctors do not face the right incentives, then the Health IT agenda is missing the obvious question: Why does the doctor not face the right incentives? How is it that the doctor does not benefit from the adoption of Health IT? The doctor is the patient&#039;s agent in the acqusition of appropriate health goods and services.  If the doctor does not benefit from Health IT, then it is a waste of resources.

For a third party to bribe a doctor to do something for which neither the doctor nor patient are willing to pay themselves, because the 3rd party believes it will improve health care, seems the height of fallacious central planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the doctors do not face the right incentives, then the Health IT agenda is missing the obvious question: Why does the doctor not face the right incentives? How is it that the doctor does not benefit from the adoption of Health IT? The doctor is the patient&#8217;s agent in the acqusition of appropriate health goods and services.  If the doctor does not benefit from Health IT, then it is a waste of resources.</p>
<p>For a third party to bribe a doctor to do something for which neither the doctor nor patient are willing to pay themselves, because the 3rd party believes it will improve health care, seems the height of fallacious central planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Debate on Feds HIT Policies Continues &#171; Chilmark Research</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23225</link>
		<dc:creator>Debate on Feds HIT Policies Continues &#171; Chilmark Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to certify EMR solutions).  One need only read the title of his post in the Health Affairs blog, HIT Initiatives, Not Magical, Just Practical, clearly giving a little dig to the &#8220;magical&#8221; reference in the Diamond-Shirky article [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to certify EMR solutions).  One need only read the title of his post in the Health Affairs blog, HIT Initiatives, Not Magical, Just Practical, clearly giving a little dig to the &#8220;magical&#8221; reference in the Diamond-Shirky article [...]</p>
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		<title>By: suehouck</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23207</link>
		<dc:creator>suehouck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked on a number of EHR (electronic health record) implementations as well as national IT collaboratives, I would concur with the box score of 5 on raising health IT awareness.
 That said, the Real World 101 of IT in the delivery of care leave much room for improvement. Many providers don&#039;t record clinical data into discreet fields in the EHR, making data extraction no easier than with paper records. In addition, many providers don&#039;t utillize their EHR&#039;s coding module which enable more accurate coding for work done but often under coded, particularly in primary care. Per an excellent Oct 2005 Health Affairs regarding the ROI on EHR&#039;s, 51.7% of total financial benefits were from increased coding levels. 

Steve Jobs and Apple has not developed an easy to use i-pod of EHRs, so learning curves are steep and useability a challenge with many sytems. A year after implementation, one client who&#039;d put enormous resources into implementing a CCHIT certified system suffered from a 20% drop in physician productivity a year later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked on a number of EHR (electronic health record) implementations as well as national IT collaboratives, I would concur with the box score of 5 on raising health IT awareness.<br />
 That said, the Real World 101 of IT in the delivery of care leave much room for improvement. Many providers don&#8217;t record clinical data into discreet fields in the EHR, making data extraction no easier than with paper records. In addition, many providers don&#8217;t utillize their EHR&#8217;s coding module which enable more accurate coding for work done but often under coded, particularly in primary care. Per an excellent Oct 2005 Health Affairs regarding the ROI on EHR&#8217;s, 51.7% of total financial benefits were from increased coding levels. </p>
<p>Steve Jobs and Apple has not developed an easy to use i-pod of EHRs, so learning curves are steep and useability a challenge with many sytems. A year after implementation, one client who&#8217;d put enormous resources into implementing a CCHIT certified system suffered from a 20% drop in physician productivity a year later.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Affairs Blog: Mark Leavitt &#8220;not magical just practical&#8221; &#124; Ted Eytan, MD</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23205</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Affairs Blog: Mark Leavitt &#8220;not magical just practical&#8221; &#124; Ted Eytan, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Health Affairs Blog: Health IT Initiatives: Not Magical, Just Practical [...]</description>
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		<title>By: acavale</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23201</link>
		<dc:creator>acavale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a 6-year user of electronic records with a paperless office, I have to respectfully disagree with your optimistic observations about the health IT industry. I have been lucky that I found a willing and able IT partner to work with me over the past 4 years to help make our use of an EMR fairly successful and rewarding. However, no private insurer or Medicare has ever offered to provide any incentive or bonus to our small practice or to assist us in our efforts, contrary to your statements. Even the latest CMS experiment selected only large group practices and totally shunted out small practices (which still provide a majority of care to most communities). The only financial benefit (albeit small) is a 2.5% discount in my liability insurance premium this year. So it is time to stop the talk and walk the walk, as far as payers are concerned. While all the talk has been on how to incentivize new adopters of technology, there is no talk of similar programs to reward those who took the risk and emptied their own pockets voluntarily in such an endeavor years ago. 

One of the main obstacles to more IT adoptions by physicians stems from the unscruplous tactics adopted by most of the IT companies, and the absence of any standards regarding contractual obligations, reasonable charges for ongoing services, resolution of disputes without getting tied up with litigation, etc. Another major problem that we all face is complete lack of interest in collaboration from all other parties such as Surescripts, national laboratories, local hospitals, etc. Just like how small practices have no leverage with payers, similarly they have none with these organisations. Costs of interoperability should not be the physicians&#039;. It is in the consumers&#039; (patients) interest that data be readily shared amongst various repositories. This is where governmental action will be beneficial. 

Finally, CMS and all payers must learn that 1-2 % bonus payments are nothing but an insult to physicians, who honestly strive every day to provide the highest quality care to their patients. Even a plumber will return such a paltry bonus payment. Besides, looking to add CPT-II codes while trying to help an ill individual, is not a natural process (assuming one can understand and implement the convoluted PQRI process). Start looking at the big picture, Mr. Leavitt and play ball with the small players as well. Who knows, you might find a lot more stars amongst this group. Look forward to your response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 6-year user of electronic records with a paperless office, I have to respectfully disagree with your optimistic observations about the health IT industry. I have been lucky that I found a willing and able IT partner to work with me over the past 4 years to help make our use of an EMR fairly successful and rewarding. However, no private insurer or Medicare has ever offered to provide any incentive or bonus to our small practice or to assist us in our efforts, contrary to your statements. Even the latest CMS experiment selected only large group practices and totally shunted out small practices (which still provide a majority of care to most communities). The only financial benefit (albeit small) is a 2.5% discount in my liability insurance premium this year. So it is time to stop the talk and walk the walk, as far as payers are concerned. While all the talk has been on how to incentivize new adopters of technology, there is no talk of similar programs to reward those who took the risk and emptied their own pockets voluntarily in such an endeavor years ago. </p>
<p>One of the main obstacles to more IT adoptions by physicians stems from the unscruplous tactics adopted by most of the IT companies, and the absence of any standards regarding contractual obligations, reasonable charges for ongoing services, resolution of disputes without getting tied up with litigation, etc. Another major problem that we all face is complete lack of interest in collaboration from all other parties such as Surescripts, national laboratories, local hospitals, etc. Just like how small practices have no leverage with payers, similarly they have none with these organisations. Costs of interoperability should not be the physicians&#8217;. It is in the consumers&#8217; (patients) interest that data be readily shared amongst various repositories. This is where governmental action will be beneficial. </p>
<p>Finally, CMS and all payers must learn that 1-2 % bonus payments are nothing but an insult to physicians, who honestly strive every day to provide the highest quality care to their patients. Even a plumber will return such a paltry bonus payment. Besides, looking to add CPT-II codes while trying to help an ill individual, is not a natural process (assuming one can understand and implement the convoluted PQRI process). Start looking at the big picture, Mr. Leavitt and play ball with the small players as well. Who knows, you might find a lot more stars amongst this group. Look forward to your response.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogtica.com &#187; Health IT Initiatives: Not Magical, Just Practical</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/08/19/health-it-initiatives-not-magical-just-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-23169</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogtica.com &#187; Health IT Initiatives: Not Magical, Just Practical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post by Mark Leavitt and software by Elliott [...]</description>
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