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		<title>By: The Lewin Group &#124; The Cost and Coverage Impacts of a Public Plan &#171; The Health Policy Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25810</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lewin Group &#124; The Cost and Coverage Impacts of a Public Plan &#171; The Health Policy Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Lewin Group &#124; The Cost and Coverage Impacts of a Public&#160;Plan  John Sheils and Randy Haught. The Cost and Coverage Impacts of a Public Plan: Alternative Design Options. Staff Working Paper #4. Washington, DC: The Lewin Group, April 8, 2009.  Full text.  This study forecasts that if a public plan paid Medicare rates, it could offer premiums 30% below those of available private plans and attract 43-130 million people to the plan. The low displacement number reflected limiting eligibility to the individual and small-group market and the self-employed, and it pulled 32 million insured people out of the private insurance plans. The higher displacement number reflected no limits on eligibility and would pull 119 million people out of private coverage. If the public plan paid commercial payment rates, the attraction would be far smaller: 10-12 million insured people would switch. If the major outlines of the Lewin study are even partially accurate, the attractiveness of the public plan depends overwhelmingly on replicating Medicare’s payments rates and, presumably, payment methodology. Source: Jeff Goldsmith, Health Affairs Blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Lewin Group | The Cost and Coverage Impacts of a Public&nbsp;Plan  John Sheils and Randy Haught. The Cost and Coverage Impacts of a Public Plan: Alternative Design Options. Staff Working Paper #4. Washington, DC: The Lewin Group, April 8, 2009.  Full text.  This study forecasts that if a public plan paid Medicare rates, it could offer premiums 30% below those of available private plans and attract 43-130 million people to the plan. The low displacement number reflected limiting eligibility to the individual and small-group market and the self-employed, and it pulled 32 million insured people out of the private insurance plans. The higher displacement number reflected no limits on eligibility and would pull 119 million people out of private coverage. If the public plan paid commercial payment rates, the attraction would be far smaller: 10-12 million insured people would switch. If the major outlines of the Lewin study are even partially accurate, the attractiveness of the public plan depends overwhelmingly on replicating Medicare’s payments rates and, presumably, payment methodology. Source: Jeff Goldsmith, Health Affairs Blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MBMundorff</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25625</link>
		<dc:creator>MBMundorff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Mr. Goldsmith’s cautions are well-founded given his assumptions, his characterization of any public plan as &quot;a new Medicare-like public health insurance offering that would &#039;compete&#039; with existing private insurance plans, and put pressure on them and on providers to hold down costs... mainly by using Medicare-like pricing leverage to achieve significant discounts&quot; is premature.  See, for example, Len Nichols&#039; comments elsewhere.  If anything, President Obama has displayed flexibility regarding candidate Obama&#039;s platform positions.  It is not a foregone conclusion that any public plan, particularly a &quot;level-playing field&quot; version, would pay &quot;Medicare rates&quot;, obviating his concern regarding the Lewin study.  More than one commentator has advocated a public plan which paid market rates and charged market premiums -- less any efficiencies from administrative,  marketing, and of course SHAREHOLDER PROFIT overhead reduction.

The second problem&#039;s situation of &quot;after-the-fact, event-driven payment under an acute care model for a population increasingly affected by chronic disease&quot; does indeed have to be addressed.  Some private (mostly not-for-profit) systems have addressed this concern in imaginative ways.  As has, for that matter, the federal government&#039;s VA healthcare system.

Goldsmith’s third concern regarding CMS bandwidth is a false one.  It would be reasonable, and in fact essential, to assume that any new public plan would have to be self-supporting as far as staffing and other resources.  Such concerns are unrelated to the &quot;starve the beast&quot; philosophy of CMS funding during the past several years from Republican legislators and administrations.  Although its design was misguided, the operation of Medicare Part D demonstrates some logistical ingenuity in this regard.

Goldsmith’s fourth problem regarding the private insurance system is unrelated to the presence of a public plan.  As he admits, the losses are due to the current economic situation, and not due to the presence of any competitor.  The unspoken message is that &quot;operating margin&quot; also includes the aforementioned returns to shareholders from for-profit insurers.

I entirely agree that &quot;If we want to consider seriously a single-payer option, which would involve deliberately sunsetting the private health insurance industry, let’s have that discussion up front and see where it leads.&quot;  However, to insinuate that any flavor of a public plan would lead to &quot;back[ing] into a single-payer system&quot; is not justified.

As Paul Krugman recently observed in the New York Times, proposed &quot;concessions from the industry&quot;, though newly minted, are already illusory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Mr. Goldsmith’s cautions are well-founded given his assumptions, his characterization of any public plan as &#8220;a new Medicare-like public health insurance offering that would &#8216;compete&#8217; with existing private insurance plans, and put pressure on them and on providers to hold down costs&#8230; mainly by using Medicare-like pricing leverage to achieve significant discounts&#8221; is premature.  See, for example, Len Nichols&#8217; comments elsewhere.  If anything, President Obama has displayed flexibility regarding candidate Obama&#8217;s platform positions.  It is not a foregone conclusion that any public plan, particularly a &#8220;level-playing field&#8221; version, would pay &#8220;Medicare rates&#8221;, obviating his concern regarding the Lewin study.  More than one commentator has advocated a public plan which paid market rates and charged market premiums &#8212; less any efficiencies from administrative,  marketing, and of course SHAREHOLDER PROFIT overhead reduction.</p>
<p>The second problem&#8217;s situation of &#8220;after-the-fact, event-driven payment under an acute care model for a population increasingly affected by chronic disease&#8221; does indeed have to be addressed.  Some private (mostly not-for-profit) systems have addressed this concern in imaginative ways.  As has, for that matter, the federal government&#8217;s VA healthcare system.</p>
<p>Goldsmith’s third concern regarding CMS bandwidth is a false one.  It would be reasonable, and in fact essential, to assume that any new public plan would have to be self-supporting as far as staffing and other resources.  Such concerns are unrelated to the &#8220;starve the beast&#8221; philosophy of CMS funding during the past several years from Republican legislators and administrations.  Although its design was misguided, the operation of Medicare Part D demonstrates some logistical ingenuity in this regard.</p>
<p>Goldsmith’s fourth problem regarding the private insurance system is unrelated to the presence of a public plan.  As he admits, the losses are due to the current economic situation, and not due to the presence of any competitor.  The unspoken message is that &#8220;operating margin&#8221; also includes the aforementioned returns to shareholders from for-profit insurers.</p>
<p>I entirely agree that &#8220;If we want to consider seriously a single-payer option, which would involve deliberately sunsetting the private health insurance industry, let’s have that discussion up front and see where it leads.&#8221;  However, to insinuate that any flavor of a public plan would lead to &#8220;back[ing] into a single-payer system&#8221; is not justified.</p>
<p>As Paul Krugman recently observed in the New York Times, proposed &#8220;concessions from the industry&#8221;, though newly minted, are already illusory.</p>
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		<title>By: james mcniff</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25618</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcniff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During 1996, the administrative simplification act was passed that included e-commerce transactions (HIPAA buiness transactions). It is now 13 years later and there isn&#039;t one insurer who is able to handle all the transactions. If private insurers are to stay in game they need to invest in this technology by a certain date and providers need to take advantage of it. The savings will be much greater than EMR implementation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During 1996, the administrative simplification act was passed that included e-commerce transactions (HIPAA buiness transactions). It is now 13 years later and there isn&#8217;t one insurer who is able to handle all the transactions. If private insurers are to stay in game they need to invest in this technology by a certain date and providers need to take advantage of it. The savings will be much greater than EMR implementation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Goldsmith</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25548</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Goldsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I added the CBO chart from Kronick&#039;s paper on Medicare&#039;s per capita expense growth vs. private health insurance is to show that if you took out the remarkable post-BBA Medicare cost holiday (which is still something of a mystery) , Medicare actually significantly underperformed private plans during the 35 years on the chart, not to mention the four year lag.  So the assumption, which is virtual gospel in the policy community,  that our political system does a better job of containing costs really needs closer examination. 

Made acknowledgement of the questions about Lewin (&quot;even partially accurate&quot;).  My main point is: setting up this plan will be a diversion of energy from the truly essential task of fixing the main public plan we already have.  Medicare is the private insurance cost benchmark already.  We don&#039;t need to invent a new public plan to exert leverage on private insurance rate structures. 

Opening eligibility to Medicare for boomers won&#039;t risk taking 20-40 million existing customers from private insurers.  5-7 million is probably manageable.  Key is:  both public and private insurance will have to expand in order to accommodate the uninsured. How do we do this without inadvertently wrecking the less durable part of the private insurance market?  There is just too much uncertainty about how to &quot;enter&quot; the commercial portion of the market to make it worth the risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I added the CBO chart from Kronick&#8217;s paper on Medicare&#8217;s per capita expense growth vs. private health insurance is to show that if you took out the remarkable post-BBA Medicare cost holiday (which is still something of a mystery) , Medicare actually significantly underperformed private plans during the 35 years on the chart, not to mention the four year lag.  So the assumption, which is virtual gospel in the policy community,  that our political system does a better job of containing costs really needs closer examination. </p>
<p>Made acknowledgement of the questions about Lewin (&#8220;even partially accurate&#8221;).  My main point is: setting up this plan will be a diversion of energy from the truly essential task of fixing the main public plan we already have.  Medicare is the private insurance cost benchmark already.  We don&#8217;t need to invent a new public plan to exert leverage on private insurance rate structures. </p>
<p>Opening eligibility to Medicare for boomers won&#8217;t risk taking 20-40 million existing customers from private insurers.  5-7 million is probably manageable.  Key is:  both public and private insurance will have to expand in order to accommodate the uninsured. How do we do this without inadvertently wrecking the less durable part of the private insurance market?  There is just too much uncertainty about how to &#8220;enter&#8221; the commercial portion of the market to make it worth the risks.</p>
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		<title>By: mgoozner</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25537</link>
		<dc:creator>mgoozner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this commentary, I was curious about Kronick&#039;s study. It turned out it came not from the Center for American Progress, but from the New America Foundation. And Goldsmith misquotes the study&#039;s discussion. Here&#039;s what Kronick actually said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Over the past three decades, the rate of health spending growth has been similar in Medicare and the private sector. The CBO reports that the excess growth in Medicare spending per beneficiary was slightly greater than excess growth in private sector spending from 1975 to 2005 – 2.4% per year for Medicare, compared to 2.0% for the private sector, with the same 0.4% gap for the 1990 to 2005 period – 1.8% in Medicare compared to 1.4% in private spending. By contrast, other researchers have found that Medicare spending growth per beneficiary was slightly lower than spending growth per privately insured person over the 1970 to 2000 time period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kronick then goes on to discuss various reasons why their rates of increase are about the same, and why Medicare lags the private sector (the most interesting part of his discussion; he claims private sector cost control and cost increases drive Medicare changes, not the other way around as is usually inferred), and concludes that both sectors have much to learn from each other in how to control costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this commentary, I was curious about Kronick&#8217;s study. It turned out it came not from the Center for American Progress, but from the New America Foundation. And Goldsmith misquotes the study&#8217;s discussion. Here&#8217;s what Kronick actually said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Over the past three decades, the rate of health spending growth has been similar in Medicare and the private sector. The CBO reports that the excess growth in Medicare spending per beneficiary was slightly greater than excess growth in private sector spending from 1975 to 2005 – 2.4% per year for Medicare, compared to 2.0% for the private sector, with the same 0.4% gap for the 1990 to 2005 period – 1.8% in Medicare compared to 1.4% in private spending. By contrast, other researchers have found that Medicare spending growth per beneficiary was slightly lower than spending growth per privately insured person over the 1970 to 2000 time period.</p></blockquote>
<p>Kronick then goes on to discuss various reasons why their rates of increase are about the same, and why Medicare lags the private sector (the most interesting part of his discussion; he claims private sector cost control and cost increases drive Medicare changes, not the other way around as is usually inferred), and concludes that both sectors have much to learn from each other in how to control costs.</p>
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		<title>By: In Case You Missed It: Goldsmith Says Dump Public Plan &#124; Swine Flu Daily Update</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25534</link>
		<dc:creator>In Case You Missed It: Goldsmith Says Dump Public Plan &#124; Swine Flu Daily Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 05:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a Health Affairs blog post today, Goldsmith suggests that Obama give up the idea of creating a new Medicare-like public health [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RogerCollier</title>
		<link>http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/05/15/the-public-plan-not-worth-the-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-25530</link>
		<dc:creator>RogerCollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jeff’s conclusions about the risks of a “purely public” plan for both political reasons (it has become a lightning rod for anti-reform sentiment) and pragmatic reasons (it could destabilize the private insurance structure). However, a number of the points that he makes need some comment.

The Lewin estimate of public plan premiums 30 percent below those of private plans is almost certainly exaggerated, due to its dependence on raw payment rates. The 30 percent figure is at odds with the experience of Medicare Advantage, in which the average differential is only 14 percent and some plans’ initial bids are below FFS projections. It also overstates private sector administrative costs (insurance exchange pools should be similar to large groups) and understates or ignores differences in utilization due to private plan UR and other controls (a point that Jeff makes in the context of his remarks about the Kronick paper).

Kronick’s spending growth numbers, taken from CBO data, seem to be at odds with CMS  national health care expenditure figures and also (as he notes) with other researchers’ figures. And, as always, it is possible to select a different span of years for data analysis and reach a different conclusion. Even assuming that the CBO growth rates are accurate, some part of the differential may be due to differences between the two populations and the resulting medical trends in the care provided.

One risk not mentioned by Jeff is that of implementing a public plan in combination with a play-or-pay mandate (still the political favorite, in various guises). The more financially attractive the public plan, the more employers who will dump their group coverage. Since almost all play-or-pay proposals assume that players’ premiums will be higher than payers’ payments, the result is likely to be a further shortfall in reform funding.

In spite of my agreement with Jeff’s basic conclusion about the risks of a public plan, I found his suggested alternative options a little puzzling. Allowing the over-55s to buy into Medicare sounds like a public plan to me, while expanding SCHIP puts more pressure on private plans that already charge below market rates for SCHIP eligibles. It’s hard to disagree with his recommendation for on-line enrollment in an insurance exchange, but the real savings from an exchange will come from price competition, not IT (and as a former CIO, I wouldn’t want to bet health care reform on a government-inspired electronic exchange).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jeff’s conclusions about the risks of a “purely public” plan for both political reasons (it has become a lightning rod for anti-reform sentiment) and pragmatic reasons (it could destabilize the private insurance structure). However, a number of the points that he makes need some comment.</p>
<p>The Lewin estimate of public plan premiums 30 percent below those of private plans is almost certainly exaggerated, due to its dependence on raw payment rates. The 30 percent figure is at odds with the experience of Medicare Advantage, in which the average differential is only 14 percent and some plans’ initial bids are below FFS projections. It also overstates private sector administrative costs (insurance exchange pools should be similar to large groups) and understates or ignores differences in utilization due to private plan UR and other controls (a point that Jeff makes in the context of his remarks about the Kronick paper).</p>
<p>Kronick’s spending growth numbers, taken from CBO data, seem to be at odds with CMS  national health care expenditure figures and also (as he notes) with other researchers’ figures. And, as always, it is possible to select a different span of years for data analysis and reach a different conclusion. Even assuming that the CBO growth rates are accurate, some part of the differential may be due to differences between the two populations and the resulting medical trends in the care provided.</p>
<p>One risk not mentioned by Jeff is that of implementing a public plan in combination with a play-or-pay mandate (still the political favorite, in various guises). The more financially attractive the public plan, the more employers who will dump their group coverage. Since almost all play-or-pay proposals assume that players’ premiums will be higher than payers’ payments, the result is likely to be a further shortfall in reform funding.</p>
<p>In spite of my agreement with Jeff’s basic conclusion about the risks of a public plan, I found his suggested alternative options a little puzzling. Allowing the over-55s to buy into Medicare sounds like a public plan to me, while expanding SCHIP puts more pressure on private plans that already charge below market rates for SCHIP eligibles. It’s hard to disagree with his recommendation for on-line enrollment in an insurance exchange, but the real savings from an exchange will come from price competition, not IT (and as a former CIO, I wouldn’t want to bet health care reform on a government-inspired electronic exchange).</p>
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